It doesnt address what we were wondering directly but it does show that yea, its not really needed.

Anabolics aren't needed either, but they're kinda cool. I still am extremely curious about hydrogen peroxide and injecting vitamin c.

I think there is something to all this hydrogen peroxide stuff. I was just reading the other day about one of the reasons honey is so good for you and that it can be used as a stopgap antiseptic is that it has enzymes that produce...you guessed it, hydrogen peroxide. I am guessing this is also one of the reasons that honey never spoils, ever.

Oh no I agree, I meant about vitC before and after workouts. I know it can be a miracle worker but it can also work against us in the training window.