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 Hello and Help!!


Hey there, I am totally new to speaking in this forum, but have been reading the posts for about a week, and I must say that I am really impressed by the knowledge of fitness from the ladies! Especially Fyre and Supergirl...
here's my deal....I'm 25, 5'7", and weigh in @ 170 with 22-24%. Minus 5 lbs, this is the thinnest Ive ever been in my adult life, which makes me happy, but I don't think I've achieved the results that i work so hard for. I would like any suggestions that you guys have after you hear my pathetically long story...as a child, I grew up learning nothing in the nutritional dept. My parents were definitive followers of the lie known as the USDA food pyramid, and hence my peronsal obeisty epidemic. My highest weight was 224, and when I finally realized that my body was unattractive to no end, I immediately joined a gym and gave it my ALL, losing 44 lbs in one summer (not in a healthy way, either). I lost touch with my runner's high, and gave up, only to go from 180 back to 200. In JAnuary of 2000, I gave it my best shot again, and went from a size 18 to a 16 and dropped back down to 180, but could never push past that point. When my boyfriend and I started dating in January 2002, we decided that we needed a major overhaul with our "diet" and "exercise" or lack thereof, and we followed the Body for Life plan, a wonderful tool in which I still partially utilize to this day. We hauled ass for 12 weeks, him reaping more rewards than I. I only lost about 15-20 lbs, but went down about 1 1/2 sizes. Well, since BFL, when, at the end of week 12 I was left with an unanswered "WTF do i do now?", I went straight to Oygen, M&F Hers, Fitness RX, Shape, Fitness, Health, you name it, to look for my very next short, goal oriented conquest. I found Freestyle Fitness on the web, bought the book (of which Mia Finnegan is the main sponsor), tried it (in the gym like almost 3 hours a day every day for 4 weeks) and it did nothing!! I tried a homegrown plan from Mocha Lee in a M&F issue, which still didn't do the trick. The scale wouldn't budge and it was soooo frustrating to feel like a complete failure when you're as Type A as I am!! My diet was clean, too. B/c I know (hopefully) someone will ask): meal 1) whey protein shake w/skim milk (sometimes a banana mixed in), 2) an EAS myoplex lite bar 3) fat free yogurt /cottage cheese 4) 4 oz grilled chicken, 1-2 cups of green beans (sometimes 1/2 baked potato, but rare), 5) 4 oz grilled salmon, 1 cup peas or spinach 6) EAS myoplex lite bar or protein shake, all the while drinking at least 3 liters of water a day ({not counting what i drank at the gym). My training changes all the time, but is something like either a pyramid scheme w/6 sets or 3-4 sets of 8-12, 3-4 exercises per muscle group on alternating days. Sometimes super sets, sometimes giant sets, every now and again, I'll put some lengthy sets in. Cardio is HIIT 3+ days a week, on training days, I might do something a little less dramatic, like speed walk for 35 minutes or so. I used to be anal about calucating everything. Calcium, fiber, carbs, fats (good and bad), protein, water, calories, and supplement with everything from Xenadrine, Hydroxycut, Lean System 7, Cutting Gel, CLA, calcium, folic acid, EFA's, fiber supplements, Vitamin C, Lipo 6, coleus forskoli, a multi from GNC, EVERYTHING!!! I never budged the scale. I honestly feel like throwing in the towel and justifying it with "at least i gave it my best shot and my boyfriend loves me for me" but I'm way too superficial to give up on this hourglass figure! I have too much force behind it and I will not accept this as a fact of life. I feel strong and powerful and ultrafeminine and a kick ass bitch when I'm working out, I just need to figure out how to show that instead of just saying/thinking it. Anyway, hence it brought me the whole way here: my new premonition: juice. Let me note that had I never researched this subject, my ideas about it from media hype would have NEVER let me think positive thoughts about it. MY friend thinks it's the best thing that's ever happened to him, and he looks damn good b/c of it. I want that feeling. I more or less want to cut a lot, as the muscle is there, just hidden My boyfriend would absolutely drop kick me (not literal) if he found out that I was interested, but I feel like I have no other choice. Everything that I have read in the forums say "make sure diet and exercise is clean first" and I think mine is. This would be used as a last resort. Anavar is the pill in question. I want more info on it and any suggestions on my regular activites and diet would be highly appreciated too. I know it's a lot. I really hope I didn't wear out my welcome here, it being my first formal visit as a member. Supergirl, you have your work cut out for you, but I BELIEVE IN YOU. Please help!!!!

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Hey Meg,
Welcome aboard!! That was a fantastic post!! As i read through it, it recalled times in my life where i too was so frustrated with my weight or bodyimage (magazines don't help either) and i admire your dedication.. throwing in the towel is NOT an option

also in my honest opinion, anavar is not for you.. sweetie, as much as i would like to believe it or wish it were true, steroids or anavar do NOT burn fat.. you will not lose weight and get thin on anavar.. Anavar is used as you said, 'as a last resort" once critical proponents are in place, however anavar will increase your lean body mass (adding muscle and possible size) and in increasing your muscle you in turn lose bodyfat and get leaner and harder, but it will not melt fat etc..

Here is my first suggestion.. go get your thyroid tested!! You may be fighting an uphill battle if that little hormone of yours is not working properly..
Secondly.. are you on any birthcontrol?? that may also contribute to an increased amount of bodyfat..
Third.. are you on any anti-depressents (you do not have to answer this publically) but if you are, it can also contribute to fat gains and trouble losing weight..

that is where i want to start with you... lets get those questions answered first and foremost and lets lose the idea of using anavar at this stage of the game..
Some Clenbuterol and fat burners might be a path you want to take, but IMHO and i feel strongly about this.. as a professional trainer, i would NOT put you on anavar...

You are a smart girl!!! You obviously have done your homework!!! You have the heart!!! and now you have the support of us here at steroidology!! So let's do this!! We will figure it out and get you going!! So no worries..
it starts by the process of elimination.. let's see what may not be working properly first and then go from there!!

LUV supergirl


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i agree with supergirl on getting your thyroid checked, as well as the other points she mentioned. once i had my tubes tied and got off of the bc pills, i noticed the weight came off easier, and also to some extent my body composition changed, my waist thinned down, as well as my hips and thighs.

another question i have and maybe supergirl can answer is, possibly could you maybe substitute real food instead of the bars you are eating? i know that there is nothing better than real food. yogurt isn't really going to do much for you, and i've noticed alot of sodium in cottage cheese. if you must do yogurt, maybe add some almonds to it, for some protein and good fats. i boil a ton of eggs at the beginning of the week to eat in the mornings. (some people don't eat the yolks) the diet you posted does look pretty clean, is there a possibility that you might not be eating enough? (question to supergirl)

also, on your training, are you taking any days off or just working out 7 days a week?

my last question is what is your frame size, small, med or large? what is your goal weight? is it a rational goal? i'm a medium to large frame girl, and for me, my "ideal weight" as books etc state, is simply not rational for me, i would look like a skeleton if i were there.


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Hey Meg and welcome to the board hun! I am in total agreeance with Supergirl on by-passing the thought of anavar at this present time.
Let me ask u something, could u get rid of those two bars in ur meal plan and replace it with some real food? I'm not a big fan of the bars to be honest with u. Even though they are low in sugar, the fact remains that they still contain sugar and all sorts of other little unwanted goodies. For convenience sakes, they're are okay or for a once in a while treat but that's about it. I also didn't see any sources of EFA's in there. Do you take supplemental flax oil? Youre diet actually looks quite good aside from the lack of EFA's. I would also suggest upping your water to 4-8 liters of water a day.
The questions that Supergirl asked about the birth control and/or anti-depressants are valuable pieces of information as well.
One more question that I'd like to ask regarding your diet is what does your preworkout meal consist of and what does your post workout meal consist of as well?
The more information we have, the more we'll be able to help you sweetie.
Once again, welcome to Steroidology!


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lol...i think we must have been typing at the same time Texgrl. I am in total agreeance with replacing the bars with real food.

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haha, great minds........


another note to meg, have you had your body fat checked or are you just estimating? i myself am 5'6 and come in around 155-160 most times. i'm a firm believer in it doesn't matter what the scale says, its how you look

p.s. welcome to steroidology! there are some great minds here, i'm sure you will find some help!

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