well I am in my second week of UGL M1T and I cant say I have the same opinion. Some of my weight is up and some isnt. There is a lot of joint pain. the first set is a killer and then it seems to calm down. Even my knees hurt when running and I run a lot and have never had knee pain. As for mass I have put on 10 Lbs but it feels like I have blimped out. I kept my diet clean with low carbs and lots of water because I was looking for a bit of definition rather then a ton of size. Still I took in about 150 g of protien a day. Muscles are harder though.
I am going to see if I can take this for another week and go to 20 mgs.
Then I am done on to Methyl-Dien I cant take the sides