my boss at work is a body builder... i'mnot sure what he takes for cutting water retention... but when he cuts 8weeks out from his show he starts Tren ace and winny together and he got shredded like crazy... i'm sure other guys on the board will tell you better things to take for specifically taking off water

yea, Im hitting the Tren and winny later on in the cycle, but that doesn't do anything for the water that I would hold from the test enan. Im running the enan through week 13, then switching o prop for 2 weeks, then no test for the last week. I just want to not hold water throughout the cycle.

why do you care how much water your holding now??? It doesn't matter what you look like now just the day of your show. The judges won't be hitting your house a the 8 week point asking you to strip so they can see how dry you are.

Yea, I guess thats true. The thing is that it messes with my mind come 6 weeks out or so. With everything that is going on with my body, my mind gets paranoid of you will. I will look like im at a high BF, when Im actually lower. Then I will stress myself out, and mess things up for myself. I guess its not that big of a deal, just something for confidence those last few weeks. Im kind of new to all this you know.

Hit the cardio and cut down on salt. I am currently using Turanabol and my cycle at 60mgs ED and I am hard and vascular like a MOF.