u workout every week day for 2 hours a day that 10hours of training per week(way too much imo). u need to up your protein first(at least 1gram per pound of bodyweight) and dont even think about gear or prohormones yet just get your diet right and training right

study the board and learn i have been here for a little while and there is still plenty to learn

read and read some more then read some more

knowledge is power and this board is very powerful

gear is not something to be played with neither are the prohormones out now

stick around and read

thats the bottom line

good luck

Thanks much, I think I've come to the right place

Well, my diet is pretty solid, I have been working out for 2-3 years now and am not really impressed by my gains. What I was thinking about doing was going with a home made creatine mix (creatine, taurine, ala, betatine, histidine, IP6, Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate) as well as M1-test, and lots of protein / fish and flax oil.

I bump PI 100%. Youre overtraining, you DO NOT need PHs, let alone steroids and your diet is the determining factor in whether you cut fat or gain muscle (attempting to do both at once is like selling used cars in Amish country.)

Read, read & read.

Guys, Thanks for all your honest answers, I decided to go all natural (bet you thought I would just go ahead and take the steroids anyway). Just by changing both my diet and workout, I have gained 20 lbs. muscle and lost significant amounts of bf. I'm still working hard over here, maybe I will post some pics someday. Thanks again for all your help!!