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  M1T.......what is this ?

 M1T.......what is this ?


M1T sold by BulkNutrition. What exactly is this stuff. I have someone saying it is a steroid, and of course I don't buy into that theory, but I have been away on holidays for a couple of weeks, so hey, maybe we changed the laws concerning steroids while I was away.......LOL

http://www.bulknutrition.com/produc...?reviews_id=494

   Reply » M1T.......what is this ?

I think this is an interesting proposal. And someone should take Warbird up on it.-- under specific circumstances. (I'd love to, but I do very little Personal Training these days and would not use a client as a guinea pig -- no offense.)

IF, someone decides to do this, I believe the only way to get an accurate assesment is this way:

One: The subject must be an experienced trainer. 2 years of training minimum. (So many of the sterling reviews of PH's are from kids who've been training for 6 months, then they step up their training and make good gains and attribute it to the PH.)

Two: The trainer must be over 23 years old. Until then, growth spurts are very rapid and unpredictable.

Three: Nothing must change. No changes in training or diet. That means no extra calories (as often recomended).
Four: No added supplements.

Five: No additional drugs (Obviously)

Six: No judgements based on water gain. (Common with PH's)

Seven. No subjective opinions. No "I look leaner" or "more dense". A caliper will be used to mpare LBM to BF% before and after the cycle.

Eight: NO anciliary drugs will be used.

Nine: There should be at least 6 subjects.

Ten: No ringers. Also, volunteers should not be out to prove something one way or the other. (Although most peole would want to think they're making progress so it's almost impossible not to exclude the placebo effect. Shit, I've been training my whole life and I still want to think I'll be better six months from now.) As amatter of fact, let's have 6 subjects actually use it, and another 6 subjects use an inert substance, then we compare the difference.

Now under these conditions, real steroids will still have a profond effect. Will 1 Test compare?

A final assesment will be made 6 weeks after the last administration of the compound. If THEN, the subjet has maintained any gaudgable lean mass, without sexual side effects, I will then re-evaluate my contention. But I honestly don't think I'll have to.


Who's up for it?


   Reply » M1T.......what is this ?

Nelson,

I fit your outlined profile, but you didn't mention anything about previous AAS use. I have none.

I don't know for sure but I think Legalgear has already done some extensive studies just like the one you outlined.


   Reply » M1T.......what is this ?

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I don't think previous use matters. Steroids will work either way, right?

Double blind studies were conducted on 1 test by an objective third party?
These weren't the same people who claimed 6OXO raised testosterone 246% is it? Because that is just a fairy tale.


Realistically, even if my conditions were followed, there's still a lot of room for error. When conducted tests with "Unleashed" we used blood tests as a guadge. That's a real indicator -- no intagibles there.

If people want to have blood tests done before and after their 1 test cycle, that'd be perfect.( but whose going to pay for them?) I'd guarentee a drop in T and a rise in e in all subjects. If not, I will praise, endorse and recommend it to everyone.

   Reply » M1T.......what is this ?

I'll try it


   Reply » M1T.......what is this ?

I'd be very keen on the idea of that study, in fact I might suggest it to some of the people I know that are soon to be seniors here and are looking for senior research projects (all ex.phys or Movement Science majors must do a senior research project). All I can say is I've gained roughly 14 pounds in as many days with no changes in diet or training and (as far as I can tell) a low amount of water retention.


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