I have tried Hot Rox from Biotest and it feels nice, but I went back to Lipodrene after about a week to capitalize on the ephedra based therms as long as I can. When ephedra is no more, I will certainly pick it back up though. It is a bit expensive though

http://www13.netrition.com/biotest_hot_rox_page.html
The ladies are right though, diet and training are the best way to get ripped.
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