Personnally, i think 75% of all those prohormones and things of that nature are total bullshit...Things like AD-1, No2, ripped fuel...ect..I think that the user thinks there helping so inturn he gets more output....anyone share this train of thought with me.....Personnally, i think your protien and creatine are all good.

So your saying Ephedra, CLA, ala, and ZMA do not work?

Reply » The placebo effect

well you see thats the whole thing about the placebo effect...a person who is taking a supplement and thinking that it is working, is likely to experience greater effects than someone who is taking that same supplement with lower expectations.

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