to me zma was for recovery. i use it when i train heavy . not for brining up test. if he does not want to take anything just weight training will bring up test by itself naturally.

Thanks for your reply.

We have talked about training but I guess my dad prefer walking the dog instead.

Anyway Im going to buy him some ZMA just for fun. I mean what harm can it do and if it really manage to level the T-levels I guess he's in for more

/Digit