Save your money! Muscletech products are over-hyped and over-priced in my opinion.

I lost 50lbs on the old stuff.... some of the gyms around here still have a few bottles of it floating around, but its been a while since the ephederine versions were even made, and I was using the 4 pill version before they introduced the 3 piller.

I would go with T-Rex and Liproxin mix, or Dymetadrene Xtreme, which now has Yohimebine in it.

the old stuff was good. im taking charge by labrada. they have it on the net for like 25$or cheaper. it works for me.