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Stats: 5'8", 32yo, 205lbs, I just finished my first cycle, started out at 400mg/week of Test Cyp ended with 600mg/week. Also about the last three weeks of my cycle I added Tren Ace. @ 75 mg/day. I also took 1mg arimidex and 1mg Proscar per day with cycle. I had hardly any sides from this cycle when using the test, however when I started the Tren I had trouble sleeping and also had bad night sweats.

The day after my last shot of Test/Tren I quit taking the 1mg Arimidex/day and started taking 20mg Nolvadex to start my PCT. That is when the shit hit the fan so to speak. I got very emotional and depressed.

My theory is that the arimidex kept my system from creating any Estrogen at all and when I quit taking it and started the nolva my body was overwhelmed with Estrogen. While I know that the nolva will prevent many of the side effects of Estrogen it will allow the body to convert the test to Estrogen while the arimidex will not allow any estrogen conversion.

Does this theory make sense? Maybe I should have tapered the arimidex instead of quitting cold turkey. How do you guys suggest I finish my next cycle.

Also, I plan to add Chlomid about 10 days after my last shot as well as HCG for a short period to get my nuts jumpstarted.

Thanks for your help. This site is a great learning tool.

Estrogen rebound is a possibility

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My theory is that the arimidex kept my system from creating any Estrogen at all and when I quit taking it and started the nolva my body was overwhelmed with Estrogen. While I know that the nolva will prevent many of the side effects of Estrogen it will allow the body to convert the test to Estrogen while the arimidex will not allow any estrogen conversion.

Does this theory make sense?

Yes, the theory could be true and the cause of at least some of your difficulties.

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Originally Posted by srh

Maybe I should have tapered the arimidex instead of quitting cold turkey. How do you guys suggest I finish my next cycle.

I usually use .25mgs of arimidex (or .5mgs every other day) throughout my PCT for the majority of my cycles. This should be enough for you and will help to stimulate your natural testosterone production while also limiting the estrogen rebound effect, if it exists.

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Originally Posted by srh

Also, I plan to add Chlomid about 10 days after my last shot as well as HCG for a short period to get my nuts jumpstarted.

You are currently using HCG during your PCT? Can you lay out exactly what your original plans for PCT was and what you have been running for it so far?

do not take tamoxifin after Tren or nandrolone (nolva upregulate the progesterone receptor- PgR) tamoxifen is highly correlated with depression (1/3 in one study-men)- nolva is a SERM- its both an agonist and antagonist. its also upregulates the PgR

use of an AI and (if needed) HCG.

prefer the use of a suicidal inhibitor (AIFM or Aromasin) as these lower SHBG as well.

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just after tren/nandrolone? what is this aromasin? never heard of it

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just after tren/nandrolone?

Yes, here is the study I posted on the subject:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=88548

I am of the opinion however that for PCT nolvadex/tamoxifen would be fine even when using tren/nandrolone. However, obviously, others disagree.

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Originally Posted by hard_gainer

what is this aromasin? never heard of it

Here is a profile on aromasin that I wrote for another site:

http://www.ironforlife.com/t10987-e...--aromasin.html