lets face it!! they are all rip offs. sure protein powder , eca , and creatine can be excluded. and liver detox woks for alot of peeps. i use supermarket brand cod liver oil , and chromium picollinate but everything else is all bull shit!!! its all hype and overpriced bull shit! ive used everything testosterone precursors and andro, hmb and methoxy. its a big fucking joke! and us gym heads are the consumers. were the idiots all the supp companies lauph at when they go to the bank!

so id like to finish by sayin fuck muscletech , fuck biotest , fuck vpx and fuck eas!!!! and everyother fucking scum bag smuck selling garbage to honest people! and if your thinking about going to gnc with 100 bucks to get 3 lbs of lean mass< forget about it man!!!!!! go buy some milk and eggs!!!!