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 new and improved pct


got this article from bodybuilding.com (reliable source)
tell me what u think. if it would work?

The best route to ensure recovery is to use as many non-hormone items you can get your hands on. First off the best route is to make your last four weeks of a cycle fast acting injectables like Trenbolone, Test Prop and Winstrol and orals like D'bol.

Ideally you would be using a small amount of arimidex or formestane during the entire cycle to keep estrogen down, unless you are using non-aromatizable steroids like trenbolone and winstrol. Clomid and/or novaldex can also be used during the cycle. At a minimum, during the cycle, every 4 weeks you should use a one-week recovery of arimidex and Clomid. This keeps the testes primed to bounce back faster post-cycle.

The critical time for recovery is the last two weeks of the cycle until about 4 weeks out. During the last two weeks of a cycle, use Clomid (50-100 mg/day) with arimidex (even when using non-aromatizing steroids this should be used as it stimulates FSH).



This would be followed by at least 2 more weeks of arimidex only (tapering down to 0.25 mg/day at the end). Don't use Clomid post cycle as it down regulates the HPTA. If you still need to use an anti-estrogen for some reason, use Novaldex post-cycle. If you have access to Bromocriptine, use that as well for a short period of time (3 weeks).

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First off the best route is to make your last four weeks of a cycle fast acting injectables


I agree with this for the most part.

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Ideally you would be using a small amount of arimidex or formestane during the entire cycle to keep estrogen down, unless you are using non-aromatizable steroids like trenbolone and winstrol.


No need for arimidex or any other aromatase inhibitor unless estrogenic side effects are becoming a problem. Beyond that they are of no benefit while on cycle.

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Originally Posted by rockpile
Clomid and/or novaldex can also be used during the cycle. At a minimum, during the cycle, every 4 weeks you should use a one-week recovery of arimidex and Clomid. This keeps the testes primed to bounce back faster post-cycle.


This is simply not true. While you are running AAS nothing will help with keeping your natural testosterone production functioning. Only HCG will help with keeping your testicles able to function. Clomid and arimidex would be useless for this purpose in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by rockpile
The critical time for recovery is the last two weeks of the cycle until about 4 weeks out. During the last two weeks of a cycle, use Clomid (50-100 mg/day) with arimidex (even when using non-aromatizing steroids this should be used as it stimulates FSH).


Nothing will help to stimulate FSH, LH or natural testosterone production while you are still running AAS.

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Originally Posted by rockpile
Don't use Clomid post cycle as it down regulates the HPTA.


At this point any person who argues this while ignoring the scientific evidence that reaches the exact opposite conclusion is viewed as borderline retarded, at best, in my eyes.

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Originally Posted by rockpile
If you have access to Bromocriptine, use that as well for a short period of time (3 weeks).


Bromo won't help with stimulating natural testosterone production. Simple as that.


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that articles pretty old now like 3 years or something
hardly new and improved........i think its even trolling round here somewhere....


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This is simply not true. While you are running AAS nothing will help with keeping your natural testosterone production functioning. Only HCG will help with keeping your testicles able to function. Clomid and arimidex would be useless for this purpose in my opinion.


that.


what about proviron during the cycle..?


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people think that only estrogen has a negetive feedback on testosterone that claim isnt true , higher amounts of adrogens also inhibit production
thats why on cycle Clomid and nolva wont restore normal biogenesis.

for proviron , its a debate .

I lean towards the fact that proviron during PCT damages the axes.
proviron itself is androgenic .


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got this article from bodybuilding.com (reliable source)




I couldn't read any further because I was laughing way too hard.....bb.com and reliable source in the same sentence......LMFAO !!


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