12 weeks 500mg test enanthate/500mg Tren enanthate
with dbol or sdrol

500mg test/week 10-12 weeks... maybe up to 15 weeks depending on gains made

deca and dbol......or test and dbol,or test and drol.....

first cycle: 2 ICN's a week.

Do test if you want quick gains in strength ansd size and quick losses in strength and size....a fact is a fact.

Do Equipoise if u are patient and want really good strength and size gains and are patient. It will take a lil longer but they will be slow keepable gains.
Id recommend no less than 10-12 wks @ 300-400 mgs every week.

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