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  HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!

 HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!


SO here I am, thinking about starting juice. I took every precaution, i took a blood test before going on it. Everything is normal, but I still feel like i shouldn't do something hardcore. From what I'v read and heard, Winstrol and Clen are very mild drugs so I started on that. Well, I had my doctor take car of me and on my 5th week on that stuff I did a blood test. OMG my liver enzymes are through the roof!
Cholesterol is high were my HDL is 0.40 and my LDL is 6.45
thats the ratio
AST is 866
ALT is 2000?? wtf
Other than that my kidneys and heart are fine(took a heart test too)
But this crazy. My doc even said that my liver is extremely sentive even with mild drugs and i should never ever touch steriods again.
ANyone experience this? I have a hard time believing this blood test..
I guess my cycles are over!

   Reply » HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!

Looks like orals dont agree without. The vast majority of injectables are NOT 17aa like that winny you took. Its not the hormones messing with your liver, its because they were methylated to help pass through your digestive system.


   Reply » HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!

OPPS sorry forgot..but it WAS injectables!! not orals!


   Reply » HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!

It doesn't matter if the Winny was oral or injectable, it is still a 17aa steroid.

You really should have done a little bit of research before starting a cycle. Winny is notorious for destroying one's HDL and therefore their total cholesterol to HDL ratio.


   Reply » HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!

Quote:
It doesn't matter if the Winny was oral or injectable, it is still a 17aa steroid.

You really should have done a little bit of research before starting a cycle. Winny is notorious for destroying one's HDL and therefore their total cholesterol to HDL ratio.


Are their specific tests doctors can give to test your liver's senstivity to drugs that may be hard on it?

What additional research would you personally recommend?


   Reply » HOLY SMOKES!!! MY liver is messed up!

then stay away from the 17aa's and try a cycle of test only after that have the doc test again/or just dont juice oh by the way sorry to hear that bro that sucks


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