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  Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility

 Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility


Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility

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Marion Merrell Dow, Winnersh, Berks, England.

The level of solubilization of the drug testosterone propionate into 2% w/w oil-in-water (o/w) microemulsions, stabilized by the nonionic surfactant polyoxyethylene 10-oleyl ether (Brij 96) and containing a range of oils, has been determined. Although testosterone propionate was readily soluble in the ethyl esters ethyl oleate, ethyl caprylate, and ethyl butyrate, and the triglycerides soybean oil, Miglyol 812, and tributryin, and the alkene 1-heptene, only microemulsions containing the ethyl esters and the triglyceride oils exhibited a significant increase in solubilization over the corresponding micellar solution (i.e., surfactant solution in the absence of oil). Furthermore, the increase in drug solubility observed in the microemulsion systems was not related to the solubility of the drug in the bulk oil. That is, while the smaller molecular volume oils, such as ethyl butyrate, exhibited a greater capacity for the drug, microemulsions containing these oils were only marginally better at solubilizing the drug than the corresponding micellar solution. In contrast, microemulsions containing the larger molecular volume oil, Miglyol 812, gave levels of drug solubilization almost three times those containing ethyl butyrate, yet the bulk capacity for drug in this oil was less than half that of ethyl butyrate. Light scattering and phase inversion temperature studies suggested that the structure of the microemulsion was sensitive to the oil being used, in that, at the low oil concentrations used in this study, the smaller molecular volume oils generally penetrated the interfacial surfactant monolayer in much the same way as a cosurfactant, causing an alteration, presumably a dilution, of the relatively concentrated polyoxyethylene region close to the hydrophobic core, thereby destroying one of the main loci of drug solubilization and counteracting any advantages encountered due to the high solubility of the drug in the bulk oil.

Pfizer Central Research, Sandwich, UK.

The pharmacokinetics of doramectin, a novel avermectin, were evaluated following parenteral administration in a range of oil-based formulations in an attempt to optimise the formulation. Therapeutic and persistent efficacies against Cooperia oncophora were also evaluated. This approach led to the identification of formulations based upon sesame oil and ethyl oleate which gave more prolonged doramectin plasma concentrations with no loss in therapeutic efficacy and improved persistent efficacy following subcutaneous administration to cattle at a dosage of 200 micrograms kg-1. The importance of using both pharmacokinetic and efficacy end points to distinguish between formulations is discussed. All formulations were well tolerated as evidenced by the absence of any reaction to injection either in the form of behavioural responses, injection site swelling or postmortem lesions. Sesame oil with ethyl oleate was the best parenteral vehicle tested for doramectin, allowing the expression of a high level of therapeutic and persistent efficacy and offering the benefit of excellent injection site toleration.

   Reply » Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility

Nice post Doc


   Reply » Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility

So what would be the best EO/oil ratio to use for near pain reduced injections? I found some EO cheap and will be using it to brew my next prop mix, was thinking maybe a 50/50 or 70/30 EO/Oil.


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i was thinking of a 70/30 prop also...


   Reply » Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility

It depends on how sensitive one is to injections and/or certain compounds (e.g. test prop). I've heard people making painfree final products with as little as 1/3 of the carrier being EO. Personally, I think if one used 1/2 EO that would reduce injection discomfort for the vast majority of people.


   Reply » Study on EO/Oil ratios; solubility

I'm gonna try brewing my next prop batch with 50/50 then Doc. I may try adding a few drops of EO to my first few weeks of shots with other compunds to see if it cuts the post soreness a bit too.


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