actually i was just told the alcohol would explode? i know some one can help since you all have used Fina and syno pellets in the past. the spiro tabs are like 80% binder.

sorry fold the triple post but also if i want told that the tabs are 80% binder then a 25mg tab still has 25mg not including the binder correct?

I think you would be fine using 80 proof vodka and heating, wouldnt try it with grain though. The info I gave you in the other post recommended heating the solution to 71C, or around 158F. When distilling Ethanol the target temp is around 173F, which is where it begins to vaporize. Dougoe would probably know for sure but I'd say you should be fine.





If the tabs say they have 25mg of a certain drug in them they have 25mg of that drug, binders and fillers don't mean anything.

doc cj suggested that i might be able to use rubbing alcohol. i also have ba thou if that should be used.

so i guess im just gonna put x amount of pills in the rubbing alcohol and let it dissolve, maybe heat it. then pour it through one or two coffe filters and then a bottle top if neccasary. Then put the beaker in hot water intill all the alcohol evaporates.

how many pills do i need to make 3% and 5% and how much alcohol? thanks

I wouldnt advise heating rubbing alcohol, which is isopropyl alcohol, not ethanol like in vodka. You did know this yes? I'm pretty sure Iso can ignite pretty easily in air, plus you start heating it and inhaling vapors and that probably aint very good either.


Start off with 1 pill. Dunk it in some vodka, heat it a little bit, little stir action and watch it disolve. If it does there you go problem solved.

The alcohol isn't part of the final product, it serves as an extraction solvent. Follow the steps in my post in the other thread.

I imagine you probably want just enough ethanol to submerge all the tabs, dont fill the beaker. To make 3% or 5% all depends on how much of it you're making. 50g jar of the stuff (just throwing that out there because thats what Benzaclin comes in) at 3% would be

50g x .03 = 1.5g

48.5g mixing solution
1.5g spiro (or in your case 60 - 25mg tabs)



Just make sure not to heat it above 71C as they said in the other post because apparently it degrades the spiro when its heated above that. Good luck