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  Home Brewing & Combinations??

 Home Brewing & Combinations??


Basically the only thing I have converted for injection is Tren, and that was made from pellets using Mr.T 4g Kit. Easy as Pie. That being said, however, I have zero experience when ti comes to home brewing. I know what I want to do, I was just hoping you can help me put everything in the right order. I'm going to use EO (if/when I get my hands on some) as my carrier and BA and BB as my solvents (naturally).

Compounds I wish to convert:
- Bold Undecylenate
- Bold Prop
- Test Prop
- Test Cyp
- Tren Ace
- NPP

I know there is a pain factor involved in the props ... and that is where your help comes in. What % of BA and BB should be used with the Props? 2.5%/18% or some other figures ... I've seen about 6-7 different figures. From your experience, which one is best in terms of pain when injecting?

Also, I am going to make a couple combination batches, I guess is how you say it. I want to know how much a solution will hold given the number of compounds? Say I want to combine 3 compounds. What's the highest concentration I can achieve from both without worry about the crash?

Examples:
- Bold Prop, Test Prop, and Tren Ace
- Test Prop and NPP
- Test Cyp & Bold Undecylenate

By the way, might anyone have a link that might lead me to some EO??

Thanks,
Sprt

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Basically the only thing I have converted for injection is Tren, and that was made from pellets using Mr.T 4g Kit. Easy as Pie. That being said, however, I have zero experience when ti comes to home brewing. I know what I want to do, I was just hoping you can help me put everything in the right order. I'm going to use EO (if/when I get my hands on some) as my carrier and BA and BB as my solvents (naturally).

Compounds I wish to convert:
- Bold Undecylenate
- Bold Prop
- Test Prop
- Test Cyp
- Tren Ace
- NPP

I know there is a pain factor involved in the props ... and that is where your help comes in. What % of BA and BB should be used with the Props? 2.5%/18% or some other figures ... I've seen about 6-7 different figures. From your experience, which one is best in terms of pain when injecting?

Also, I am going to make a couple combination batches, I guess is how you say it. I want to know how much a solution will hold given the number of compounds? Say I want to combine 3 compounds. What's the highest concentration I can achieve from both without worry about the crash?

Examples:
- Bold Prop, Test Prop, and Tren Ace
- Test Prop and NPP
- Test Cyp & Bold Undecylenate

By the way, might anyone have a link that might lead me to some EO??

Thanks,
Sprt



I use 2% 20% for all conversions. Even prop at 2% 20% at 150mg/ml was painless for me, but that may be just me. As for the combos, i dont see the bold prop/test prop/tren ace being able to hold at higher than 200mg/ml total, im not even sure it would hold that high. Test prop/npp, you migh be able to get it to hold at 100mg each per ml. Test cyp/eq, my best guess, is 200-250 for the cyp per ml, and pretty high with the eq, 400+ no problem. You might even be able to get 300mg cyp and 500mg eq per ml, but it will be real thick. These are all guesses from my experience, sometimes things hold at a certain concentration and sometimes they dont, its weird. What is EO?


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I use 2% 20% for all conversions. Even prop at 2% 20% at 150mg/ml was painless for me, but that may be just me. As for the combos, i dont see the bold prop/test prop/tren ace being able to hold at higher than 200mg/ml total, im not even sure it would hold that high. Test prop/npp, you migh be able to get it to hold at 100mg each per ml. Test cyp/eq, my best guess, is 200-250 for the cyp per ml, and pretty high with the eq, 400+ no problem. You might even be able to get 300mg cyp and 500mg eq per ml, but it will be real thick. These are all guesses from my experience, sometimes things hold at a certain concentration and sometimes they dont, its weird. What is EO?

You do 2%/20% for all conversions??

It's a guess game huh? I guess there is only one way to find out and learn what works and what doesn't. Trial and error.

EO = Ethyl Oleate, which is supposed to be a painless carrier for props and other painful gears. How? I dont know, but supposidly helps. Thanks for the reply though bro. Much appreciated...

Sprt

PS: These are some figures posted by anothe member at AM which recieved the big "A-OK" in terms of holding the solution. Tell me what you think...
Quote:
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml - 5%BA 15%BB

Boldenolone Undecylenate 200mg/ml - 5%BA 15%BB

Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg/ml - 5%BA 15%BB

Testosterone Propionate 100mg/ml - 4%BA 12%BB

Boldenolone propionate 100mg/ml - 4%BA 12%BB

5aa cyp 250mg/ml - 4%BA 12%BB

Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/ml - 4%BA 12%BB

I think he is over kill on the BA, but to be honest I'm not to sure myself. Doesnt BA contribute to some of the pain??


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That is a little high on ba. Ive shot 1cc of pure ba and 1cc of pure bb about a year back, and didnt get pain from either. But that may just be me. On the other hand, test enan at anything over 400mg/ml cripples me. I use 2% 20% on everything, u dont need that much bb for some conversions, but i like to thin it out a little.


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combos are not necesaary. just mix in the syringe. once you combine them you are locked into that ratio.

and that list you posted is a joke on how to make home brew.

test enan, eq and deca are all soluable in oil. no solvent needed.

ba does not cause pain less you one of the few folks who is sensitive to it.


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combos are not necesaary. just mix in the syringe. once you combine them you are locked into that ratio.

and that list you posted is a joke on how to make home brew.

test enan, eq and deca are all soluable in oil. no solvent needed.

ba does not cause pain less you one of the few folks who is sensitive to it.


OK. I'm glad I ask these questions. This is the problem with online message boards ... everyone has an opinion. Its often hard to weed out the wrong ones from the bunch. I guess this is why the boards are here (to help decipher). Thank for the clearifcation. I guess I need to keep doing my homework.

lol, dont worry ... if i come up with any more questions, I'll be sure to ask.

Thanks,
Sprt

PS: What about the EO? Anyone know a "legit" research comp I can pick this stuff up from. I know of a couple, but they look suspicious.


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